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#1 RobertK

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 06:52 AM

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Endowed with these five qualities, a lay follower is an outcaste of a lay follower, a stain of a lay follower, a dregs of a lay follower. Which five?
1. He/she does not have conviction [in the Buddha's Awakening];
2. is unvirtuous;
3. is eager for protective charms & ceremonies;
4. trusts protective charms & ceremonies, not kamma;

5. and searches for recipients of his/her offerings outside [of the Sangha], and gives offerings there First."

"..Endowed with these five qualities, a lay follower is a jewel of a lay follower, a lotus of a lay follower, a fine flower of a lay follower. Which five?
1. He/she has conviction;
2. is virtuous;
3. is not eager for protective charms & ceremonies;
4. trusts kamma, not protective charms & ceremonies;

5. does not search for recipients of his/her offerings outside [of the Sangha], and gives offerings here first..."


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#2 Bhikkhu Pesala

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 09:24 AM

1. Assaddho hoti;
2. dussīlo hoti;
3. kotūhalamaṅgaliko hoti,
4. maṅgalaṃ pacceti no kammaṃ;
5. ito ca bahiddhā dakkhiṇeyyaṃ gavesati; tattha ca pubbakāraṃ karoti.