tanha- good types?

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“He, on a later occasion, [through] having relied on craving, abandons
craving.”

The commentary explains that the craving rooted in the past round of sa.msaara
is abandoned through relying on the presently arisen craving (for extinction of
the aasavas). It then continues:

aya.m pana paccuppannata. nhaa kusalaa akusalaati?
akusalaa.
sevitabbaa na sevitabbaati?
sevitabbaa.
pa.tisandhi. m aaka.d.dhati naaka.d.dhatiiti?
naaka.d.dhati. etissaapi pana paccuppannaaya sevitabbata. nhaaya nikanti
pajahitabbaayeva.

Q. But is this presently arisen craving wholesome or unwholesome?
A. It is unwholesome.
Q. Must it be embraced or not embraced?
A. It must be embraced.
Q. Does it draw one towards rebirth-linking?
A. It does not draw one. However, desire for the presently arisen craving-that-
must-be-embraced must be abandoned.

This is then followed by an analogous treatment of maana.
Hi Robert/Ciarán,

Thanks for this great quote, I don’t think I’ve read it before. In a reply in the post’s original context, it was suggested that this refers exclusively to the anagami. Do you think this was correct? Is this made explicit in the commentary?

I take it to refer to insight arising with presently arisen (unwholesome) desire as its basis, and, by implication, as evidence that prior suppression of desire (or any defilement) is not a prerequisite to insight (an important theme in my opinion). If that is correct, then surely this would not apply exclusively to the anagami?

Finally, can anyone tell me where exactly (in which commentary) to find the original?

Thanks again and in advance.

mike

“He, on a later occasion, [through] having relied on craving, abandons
craving.”

The commentary explains that the craving rooted in the past round of sa.msaara
is abandoned through relying on the presently arisen craving (for extinction of
the aasavas). It then continues:

aya.m pana paccuppannata. nhaa kusalaa akusalaati?
akusalaa.
sevitabbaa na sevitabbaati?
sevitabbaa.
pa.tisandhi. m aaka.d.dhati naaka.d.dhatiiti?
naaka.d.dhati. etissaapi pana paccuppannaaya sevitabbata. nhaaya nikanti
pajahitabbaayeva.

Q. But is this presently arisen craving wholesome or unwholesome?
A. It is unwholesome.
Q. Must it be embraced or not embraced?
A. It must be embraced.
Q. Does it draw one towards rebirth-linking?
A. It does not draw one. However, desire for the presently arisen craving-that-
must-be-embraced must be abandoned.

This is then followed by an analogous treatment of maana.
Hi Mike
Good questons maybe ask sarah about anagmis as I also wonder if it was made explicit in teh commentaries.

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