In firstname.lastname@example.org, “buddhatrue”
> James: Rather than focusing on “my taints” (something KS far over-
> emphasizes), let’s focus on “worries” or “hates” the defilements. Is
> one supposed to worry about and hate the defilements? Well,
> according to the Abhidhamma, yes! Two of the beautiful mental
> factors are Shame of evil (hiri) and fear of evil (ottappa). These
> are things to be encouraged. We should “hate” or “abhor” the
> defilements (or have shame over them) and we should “worry” about the
> defilements (or have fear about them). These are two of the
> beautiful mental factors which should be encouraged.
> I don’t care how you look at it, KS is contradicting what the Buddha
> taught- and in this case it is plainly obvious.
It may be hepful to define terms as your disagreement may be about the
nuances of the English translation of hiri , otappa, – and the pali of
When you say one should hate the defilements what are the mental
factors arising when hating? Does it come with pleasant, neutral or
Do hiri and otappa come with pleasant, neutral or unpleasant feeling?